FAQFAQ SearchSearch MemberlistMemberlist UsergroupsUsergroups RegisterRegister
ProfileProfile Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages Log inLog in

 
coles notes or EEC for Dummies

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    TunerPro User Forum Forum Index -> Ford
 
TurboCamaro



Joined: 28 Jul 2014
Posts: 4

PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:36 pm    Post subject: coles notes or EEC for Dummies Reply with quote

Is there a paper or thread on how to get started with Ford tuning (or maybe binary tuning). I do a lot of stand alone and OBDII however haven't played with OBDI much. I have an A9L engine in a 40 Ford to do. I have Moates hardware as well as TunerPro RT and EEC Editor. I downloaded the A9L bin and GUFB definition off the TunerPro site. When I look at the Bin in TunerPro it doesn't make much sense. For example the spark values are all 31.75. Viewing them in EEC Editor they make a bit more sense at least the values change throughout the table and trend in the correct direction. I suspect this has something to do with the thread "Note for users of different Editors". Is there a bible for dummies to learn this gig. For example in the previous post it talks about padding the first 8k of the bin, what does this mean. Thanks for your patience.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
 

 
XantheFIN



Joined: 29 Jul 2013
Posts: 15

PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:39 pm    Post subject: Re: coles notes or EEC for Dummies Reply with quote

TurboCamaro wrote:
Is there a paper or thread on how to get started with Ford tuning (or maybe binary tuning). I do a lot of stand alone and OBDII however haven't played with OBDI much. I have an A9L engine in a 40 Ford to do. I have Moates hardware as well as TunerPro RT and EEC Editor. I downloaded the A9L bin and GUFB definition off the TunerPro site. When I look at the Bin in TunerPro it doesn't make much sense. For example the spark values are all 31.75. Viewing them in EEC Editor they make a bit more sense at least the values change throughout the table and trend in the correct direction. I suspect this has something to do with the thread "Note for users of different Editors". Is there a bible for dummies to learn this gig. For example in the previous post it talks about padding the first 8k of the bin, what does this mean. Thanks for your patience.

Yes. Because EEC starts reading content from address 2000 on external chip (?) First 8k should be padded null data (FF) via Hex editor.


Other way you can on TunerPRO choose do you have 56K *.bin or 64K *.bin by going to XDF -> View / Edit XDF Header Info -> Open New Window and put next values depending which one you have.

*Size 10000 / Base Offset 0000 [ ] Subtract* - 64K bin
*Size E000 / Base Offset 2000 [x] Subtract* - 56K bin
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
 

 
TurboCamaro



Joined: 28 Jul 2014
Posts: 4

PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know this is probably a very elementary question for the more experienced users however how do you know what is 8k worth of padding.

Is there a book or other material out there to learn all this?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
 

 
XantheFIN



Joined: 29 Jul 2013
Posts: 15

PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TurboCamaro wrote:
I know this is probably a very elementary question for the more experienced users however how do you know what is 8k worth of padding.

Is there a book or other material out there to learn all this?

eectech98.pdf


This is good up to disassembly. I am not best to tell how to but this is my try as now and very shortly.


When you dumb a9l EEC-IV to *.bin it's FULL size is 64K. If you downloaded from some site i think it is 56K bin...

Now first 8K of 64K bin (Up to address 2000 in hex editor- First real code starts there "FF FA" Leave that as first row of code) is useless to you.

So you replace (64K Bin) or put at the start (56K Bin) that piece of code with null data and you then have 64K bin which you can open in TunerPRO when you have XDF which has next values in XDF header options.

Bin Size 10000
Base Offset 0000
[ ] Subtract (Means - Leave this empty)


When burning to chip it needs to have that first 8K of data code before real code OR EEC fails to read your ROM because it's addressing has offset of 2000.

Sorry if not clear. Read that eectech98.pdf. Wink Go to efidynotuning -site and it's forum or go to eectuning.org forums for more info.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
 

 
TurboCamaro



Joined: 28 Jul 2014
Posts: 4

PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you! Smile
It would appear I have some reading to do now!
I really appreciate.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
 

Display posts from previous:   
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Post new topic   Reply to topic    TunerPro User Forum Forum Index -> Ford All times are GMT - 9 Hours
 
Page 1 of 1
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
 


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group
RedSquare theme 1.0.3 © DoubleJ(Jan Jaap)