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Can I use TunerPro to scan EEC IV fault codes?

 
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jetfueler5



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:39 am    Post subject: Can I use TunerPro to scan EEC IV fault codes? Reply with quote

Can I use TunerPro to scan the EEC IV fault codes from my 95 ford explorer?
If so is it compatiable with windows XP?
My laptop only has USB ports so I would need a cable that goes from the car diagnostic plug (offset "D" shaped connector) to the USB port.
Does anyone know where I can get that, or the components there of? I tried AKM and Steve Ruse and the only do GM OBD stuff.
Are there any schematics available for this type cable and converter?

Please let me know

Thanks,
Steve
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dex
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately this is not possible with TunerPro. In theory, it ought to be able to be done with ScannerPro but no one knows enough about the DCL protocol to achieve it Sad
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never_be_rich



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your reply does confuse me ... I own a 1997 Motor Home built on a F53 with a V8, 7.5 L, 460 CID ... for what ever reason Ford did not go to the OBD-II until the V10 Engine. I was directed to this site by another motor home owner. Looking at the screen shot for ALDL Data Monitoring - Bits, it appears the unit will read a check engine light status. Also, the ALDL Data Monitoring - Sensors screen shot shows what I assume to be real time values.

I would like to take my motor home on a trip west. I want to monitor engine temp and transmission temp on the long grades ... the F53 does not have a transmission temperature guage. We are already using a laptop for GPS mapping while traveling. Also, if a check engine light comes on, it would be useful to read the code. It is hard to take the unit into a Ford dealer to get a code read.

Do you believe Tunerpro will do what I am looking for? How do I buy or make a cable? Also , my laptop has only USB ports.

Thank you for your assistance.
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dex
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want to read eec-iv fault codes then you could;

1) Buy a reader; there are plenty of simple flashing led types around or easier to use numerical display ones available, there are usually a variety for sale on Ebay

2) Make reader; e.g. a simple one www.fordscorpio.co.uk/star.htm or a more complicated one homepage.ntlworld.com/a.harby2/ggpfcrpg.html

3) Use the trusty 'paper clip' method; see fordfuelinjection.com/?p=13

Live data is possible on the last of the eec-iv's that have the DCL data lines but there is no DIY or cheap solution to accessing the data that I am aware of.
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never_be_rich



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dex wrote:
If you want to read eec-iv fault codes then you could;

1) Buy a reader; there are plenty of simple flashing led types around or easier to use numerical display ones available, there are usually a variety for sale on Ebay


I found this code reader ... read the documentation and contacted the company ... even gave them my VIN.
http://www.iequus.com/product_info.php?product_id=3145&category_id=1_10_3

This is the response I received:
We do not offer a code reader for this vehicle. I hope this has answered your question. If you have any other questions please do not hesitate to reply to this e-mail or call one of our ASE Certified Staff Members at 1-800-544-4124. We are available Monday through Friday 5am - 6pm Pacific Time.

- Technical Support


I also called them, they said it does not work beyond 1995 and on vehicles over 8500 GVW.

Do you have a reommendation for a code reader?

Thank you for the assistance.
Dave
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dex
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TBH it sounds like the typical answer you get when they are not sure of whether their product will work.

Is your ecu an eec-iv and what is it's 'catch code'? Also, have you found the self test connector and what does it look like?
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never_be_rich



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dex wrote:
TBH it sounds like the typical answer you get when they are not sure of whether their product will work.

Is your ecu an eec-iv and what is it's 'catch code'? Also, have you found the self test connector and what does it look like?


My son-in-law who until recently was a Ford Tech said the ECU was an EEC-IV. The unit is not here, it is in storage, but the connector is the odd shaped trapezoid ... not anything like the data link on my 2000 Ranger or 2002 taurus. It looks something like this http://www.shotimes.com/pics/eec.gif

I am not sure what the 'catch code' is . Is it the 3 or 4 digit alpha numeric found on the computer itself? If so, I am going to have to track the computer down by following the lead from the data plug. It is going to take me a week or so to go to the motor home and track it down. My wife just had a complete knee replacment so I am nurse, cook, dish washer , etc! I have plenty of time on the computer but not to go some where awhile.

I just got a reply back from Acton who advertises a scanner that will connect to the EEC-IV ... they sent me a reply back "Unfortunately, we do not manufacture a Scanner that can perform the requested function."

Thank you once again for the assistance.

Regards,

Dave
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dex
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That connector is typical of the North American eec-iv ecu's self test connectors. I expect you should be able to use the paper-clip method (as shown on fordfuelinjection.com) to read any error codes. If that works then I would have thought the Equus reader would be compatible.

The 'catch' code is usually the largest text found on the J1 connector labels, see here for examples fordfuelinjection.com/?p=17
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never_be_rich



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you once again for our reply! I am going to show my ingnorance here! What is the difference between the catch codes? They all seem to use the use error codes, however, I sure that all do not put out the same error codes ... for example the Escort would not put out the error codes for the E4OD transmission.

I rather not count lights ... especially with check engine light at some campground or parking lot Sad I looked at the more complicated DYI tester by the Grahams that provides the code output. If I have the Check code, could he program the memory? I have a friend who is EE that cut his teeth on Electric Control Modules for Electric Lift Trucks and then moved into the ECM for on-highway and stationary diesel engines. So no big deal to build the unit, except for the memory, he probably already has the parts. He could probably even program the memory but Graham says the source code is not available.

OTC sent me a note that they have unit ... retail $825 ... a little much.

Thank you once again!

Regards,
dave
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dex
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was curious about the catch code as that might of indicated whether it was a common ecu or a rare one. Maybe someone would recognise it and be able to confirm for sure what reader would work with it.
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never_be_rich



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the reply ... will post again when I have the code ... may be awhile do to my wife's condition.
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